What did NOT happen in Newtown, CT

15 Dec

The response to the events in Newtown, CT are predictable.

Disbelief.

Shock.

Outrage.

Fear that it could happen in my child’s school.

And it’s everywhere: TV, radio, Facebook, Twitter.

Everywhere.

This morning, as I scrolled down through Facebook posts, I came upon this photo, and had to respond.

[I linked a photo from Facebook that was a T-shirt meme. That photo link was broken. I have replaced it.]

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I don’t know if you are a person of faith, and if you are, I don’t know which faith you adhere to.

But the T-shirt is not true.

Yes, organized prayer — of any faith — is not allowed in the public schools. Yes, teaching the creation theory against evolution is not allowed.

But God IS in the schools. You can’t keep Him out. He teaches math or science or Language Arts; He’s a band teacher, or a drama teacher. He comforts and loves and freely gives to every student, every staff and faculty member that walks the hallways in every school.

If it is true, then God was not in Vietnam; is not in Afghanistan; was not in Japan when the tsunami hit; fled when the planes hit the Twin Towers in New York on 9/11.

If it is true, he abandoned the beaches of Dover, fled from Manassas and Gettysburg.

He has left countless hospitals.

And we should all become Deists.

There are no quick nor easy answers to tragedies like Newtown or Columbine.

But I can tell you, when the Principal and vice principal and guidance counselor confronted the shooter, God was with them.

When he sprayed the hallways and hit numerous children, God was with them, also.

God never left that elementary school.

So, I’m going to advise you, if you have the slightest unction to buy and wear that T-shirt — don’t.

It’s a lie.

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19 Responses to “What did NOT happen in Newtown, CT”

  1. Sheila December 15, 2012 at 2:19 pm #

    Powerful..

    • Chris Jarrell December 15, 2012 at 5:52 pm #

      Thank you sir for writing this! The shirt is not theologically correct…what “God says” would never be anything he would say to anyone.

      • skipmars December 15, 2012 at 6:12 pm #

        I find it very dangerous to presume to speak for God. That goes for me, as well.

  2. skipmars December 15, 2012 at 6:14 pm #

    The other thing is this: I wonder what the person who printed the shirt will do with the profits from the sale of it?

  3. RoSy December 15, 2012 at 6:32 pm #

    Amen!

  4. Joe December 15, 2012 at 7:25 pm #

    Why is it so hard for people to realize there is no god????

    • skipmars December 15, 2012 at 8:34 pm #

      Because it’s more difficult to believe there is no God than to believe in God. In spite of what you think, Joe, the evidence is overwhelming.

      • Joe December 15, 2012 at 9:21 pm #

        Actually, there is no scientific evidence for the existence of god or any god throughout history….not one ounce of evidence. Just because it feels good to believe in God does not mean that it is true. Just because science may not be able to explain everything yet doesn’t mean God is culprit in those gaps yet to be understood for example the beginning of life, the universe, etc. Your only argument is that you have to have faith. I am not going say that I can prove there is not a God because it is an impossible question to answer, however, I will restate and ask, what is your reason and evidence for the existence of God? Why should anyone else believe it?

    • skipmars January 26, 2013 at 6:58 pm #

      Joe, give a look at this clip:

      http://www.mrctv.org/embed/119643

  5. Kevin December 15, 2012 at 9:37 pm #

    Well said, Skip (by the way, I’m a friend of Graham and Sarah’s)!

  6. skipmars December 15, 2012 at 9:38 pm #

    By your argument, then, we both agree that God is not the reason for the shooting in Newtown. What we do not agree on, is whether He was there. So, if we are not of the same persuasion about God, why do you argue the point? I would think it as futile for you to convince me of disbelief as it would be futile for me to convince you of belief.

    As you are probably also convinced I do not understand the scientific argument of God’s existence or nonexistence, I don’t expect you to understand the spiritual arguments.

    I would point you to C.S. Lewis’ “Mere Christianity” You’ve probably read it, though.

    • April Bates December 16, 2012 at 6:31 am #

      Wonderful reply, Skip! I couldn’t have said it any better! And this includes both your response to Joe and the blog : )

      Why do atheists always assume that all of us who wholeheartedly believe in God are a bunch of idiots, LOL! Personally, I too had my doubts when I was younger about the existence of God and it wasn’t until i went to college and graduated with a degree in science that I realized that the idea of there NOT being a God is ridiculous. For one thing, a world as beautifully complex as ours simply could not of evolved by chance.

  7. skipmars December 16, 2012 at 9:27 am #

    I saw two videos years ago that were scientific presentations on two subjects. One was the possibility of life on other planets, and the other was a description of microbiotic machines that operate at a cellular level in the body.

    I can’t remember the titles, but both were well presented and were quite fascinating.

    The first dealt with why the Earth sustains life as we know it. From its size, water content, distance from the Sun, the existence and importance of the Moon, the angle of the tilt of the axis, and much more, the film presented the balances that promote life. Any variations or absence of a factor would render the Earth lifeless.

    The second delved into cellular information that has only become available since the mapping of DNA. Again, fantastic presentation of that level of assigned/designed functions of proteins and other cell components.

    If you Google Stephen C. Meyers and Intelligent Design, you will discover a whole scientific community arguing through the science and data for intelligent design v. random creation.

    Believers as well as nonbelievers can profit from a short study of this growing point of view, I believe :).

    Ever hear of Rachel’s Challenge? Rachel Joy Scott was one of the victims of Columbine. As a result of her life, and an essay she had turned in, a nation-wide program to public schools is in place to combat bullying. It is powerful and impactful.

    Ever hear of Corrie Ten Boom? Her book, The Hiding Place talks of God’s presence in, of all places, a Nazi concentration camp during WWII.

    I’m hoping Joe WILL undertake to disprove the existence of God. Look at these natural phenomenon. Go to a Rachel’s Challenge rally — or at least the website to see the material there. Read The Hiding Place. There’s nothing to lose by it. You will probably reinforce your nonbelief.

    But then again . . .

  8. Russ December 17, 2012 at 11:35 am #

    Man can prohit people from reading the Bible, saying a prayer or calling out God’s name but he can’t keep God out of any place. God is everywhere. We won’t know why something like this happened until we cross over and see things from the spirit world’s view.

  9. Josh December 17, 2012 at 11:38 pm #

    An inaccuracy I found in the article was the point about “organized prayer — of any faith — is not allowed in the public schools”.

    This is not true.
    In fact, I was employed by an international non-profit for many years who helped students organize prayer, small groups, Bible Study, outreach events including large concerts, national days of prayer, and weekly large-group gatherings in the gymnasium. This was a Christian ministry, and the students overtly invoked the name of Jesus in every activity they did. I specifically oversaw 14-counties and hundreds of public middle and high-schools, and everything that took place was within the letter of the federal, state, and local laws.

    Just thought it was important to mention. Lots of folks have the ill-perception that there cannot be such activities on the public school grounds. It’s important to realize that this is false.

    • skipmars December 18, 2012 at 7:56 am #

      I stand corrected, Josh. Thank you for pointing out that not everywhere is closed to those observances. In NC, the pledge of allegiance is still recited at the start of the day, and “Under God” is still in.

  10. timkeen40 December 23, 2012 at 3:22 pm #

    The only way to take God out of schools is to take kids out of school that believe in God. The government cannot dictate that. It is something only the homes can do.

    Tim

  11. skipmars December 23, 2012 at 8:46 pm #

    I don’t agree with your statement, Tim — but I understand how you might come to that conclusion. Taking kids who believe in God out of schools doesn’t take God out of the schools, in my opinion.

    In the Apostle’s Creed, there is the statement “He descended into hell,” which tells me God has no difficulty being anywhere He choses to be.

    The Great Commission (go unto all the world and make disciples of them) is indicative of a god who seeks (Behold, I stand at the door and knock), and will not be denied. And the gates of hell shall not prevail against Him. No place can keep God out.

    Remember what God said to Moses: Tell them I AM sent you. Omniscient and omnipresent.

    There is no way to take God out of wherever He IS.

    So, is it the Christian parent’s role, then, to separate and segregate themselves and their families from unbelievers?

    I know many parents who feel that way.

    Be in the world, not of the world. Newtown, Columbine, Paduka, Va Tech, Dachau, My Lei — God is.

  12. Liana December 30, 2012 at 11:13 am #

    amen

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